saving this knowledge for the next person who tries to tell me that one should apply scientific distinctions to the natural-language use of "monkey" and "ape"

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@earthtopus I had a suspicion this was true but never looked it up

what a nice thing to hear it confirmed

@cwebber I have a packet of seeds for those under the name "walking-stick kale" but never had the courage or space to plant them

bug 

@earthtopus could you make it a home for a walking-stick bug where you live?

@earthtopus We had a bunch of weeds that kept grabbing onto and strangling other plants in our yard

"What could they be", I thought

... wild grapes! Who knew grapes were so *vicious*

@cwebber @earthtopus a cabbage tree: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_cabbage

used as livestock fodder, so presumably edible for humans as well, tho possibly less tasty than some other brassicas

@Satsuma @earthtopus I would kind of like to grow one in my garden, but they aren't currently grown in the area, and I guess for all I know they could become invasive. Oh well...

@earthtopus This exact issue caused a LOT of heated arguments in my undergrad anthropology lounge. I maintain that "monkey" is not a meaningful term in any way.

@earthtopus Or at least if it has a meaning it's basically "something we don't want to call a close relative like chimps but isn't as freaking weird as a lemur".

@earthtopus I'm finding it difficult to keep reading because the line
"Why do trees keep happening?"
took me by surprise and I'm still recovering from it.
It's just such a good subheading.

@earthtopus at first I thought the headline was about phylogenetic trees and it got me confused since I'm an avid reader of John Hawks's writing about gene flow http://johnhawks.net/

Anyway this article is super interesting, thanks for sharing it!

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