@codesections if it accumulates the bulk of new users every time there is an influx (because of a perceived value of being on a massive instance, which is itself faulty), it will always have undue, unbalanced power in the network.
And its very existence contributes to the faulty belief that massive instances are better, either for a user or for the community.
@lawremipsum As long as it makes him more money he will do it. Make no mistake this is just another hierarchy
That the same person who doesn't want to include local-only posts in Mastodon because it would contribute to centralization runs a canonical "flagship" instance. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@lawremipsum While I take your point, I have to disagree. Although I am a developer, many of my friends are not. They aren't ever going to set up their own instance to try the waters of mastodon.
I believe that having something like mastodon.social is great for getting people on board, which can then lead to those people exploring their own instances. Or perhaps having a developer creating it for them.
Either way, it is a stepping stone that people need right now.
@KatGoesWoof well I'm not a coder, but I'm guessing it's (1) probably impractical to allow in a way that wouldn't be a vector for DDOSing a server and (2) you can't recreate all the convo threads, links to the posts, etc., so whatever could be built would always be viewed as incomplete and or inadequate for the intended functiin—better to not create the expectation of something that really isn't possible.
@lawremipsum (1) is easy to work around. (2) seems like a more reasonable reason but it would only affect people that stayed in the instance right? the posts you took with you would simply include links to posts on other instances that can then be retrieved and shown.
I'm sorry if I'm talking shit I don't have much experience with social media.
@eevee @lawremipsum yeah, i've been thinking about this and it seems like that's probably where the balance of the decision is at. way more people will get confused and bounce off if they can't join the most visible instance.
on the other hand, we could probably use more work on funneling people into smaller instances. i dunno.
(and then do i really think that limits on growth / escalation around here are a _bad_ thing? i have complicated feelings.)
@brennen @eevee @lawremipsum Certainly that was a thing for me. I sometimes feel like switching instance still don't really feel like I know which would be "right for me". I do feel like it kind of matters less though — it's like choosing a university: you don't know what you're doing but you'll meet nice people and it'll usually be fine, and unlike a uni you can always bail and switch. If we can present an instance choice in a less intimidating way I think it would help a lot.
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